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Commonwealth 2.0 deck - extra card options
Commonwealth 2.0 deck - extra card options Posted on [25/07/2021] à 14:11

Hi all,


I have bought the new 2.0 Commonwealth deck, which includes two options token for the extra Paratrooper and Commando cards.


I have noticed though the colors of the Commando option are different from the past ones, used on the v.1.0 deck. I am not sure about the Paras, as I don't own them.


In any case, is this intentional? I own the Commandos and I don't see any place where the updated token for the extra card could fit.


Thanks in advance for any help! 🙂


Commonwealth 2.0 deck - extra card options Posted on [26/07/2021] à 03:55

I kept trying to warn people that if you don't have paras or the commandos, the cards are of no use. Sorry if you thought otherwise.


The Pigs Back from Hell decks had their own backs, you can use the entire deck along with the Para and/or command cards and you are all set. They are designed to be used together.


Given the issues that can crop up from even the same graphic printed at different times, it is just as well that you have all the card backs printed at the same time.


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Commonwealth 2.0 deck - extra card options Posted on [26/07/2021] à 10:08

Thanks for the reply Nostradunwhich, but perhaps I have not been clear in making my question.


I am aware (as I was before buying) that if one misses the Paras or the Commandos the extra cards are of no use. No problem at all there. And I do own the Commandos anyway, so the extra 6 updated cards are a very welcome bonus for me. I have some Paras and may get the rest of them later.


In any case, my question is not about the cards, but about the options to include the extra cards in the deck, as the new one has different colors than the old one, and they do not seem to be fitting with any recruitment tile.


See this picture:


– on the left, the old option to add the extra Commando cards. It can fit in one (of the many) slots of one (of the many) Commandos recruitment tiles. I have placed Lord Lovat's as an example;


– on the right, the new option to add the extra Commando cards. I have checked all of my Commando tiles (I have the Lord Lovat's set as well as the the Fusiliers Marins) and there is not any slot that can fit those colors.


So I'm wondering if I am missing something here, or if the colors on the option have been just a misprint. In that case I may just keep using the old option (easy fix!) but I wanted to be sure.


Thank you! 🙂


Commonwealth 2.0 deck - extra card options Posted on [26/07/2021] à 11:30

Oh! Sorry, I completely misunderstood.


I see your point, than you for the picture.


I have made enquiries 🙂


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Commonwealth 2.0 deck - extra card options Posted on [27/07/2021] à 20:21

The tile on the right matches:


* The images in the "NEW LORD LOVAT PREVIEW" (https://www.devil-pig-games.com/en/new-lord-lovat-preview/)

* The mockup of its packaging (https://www.devil-pig-games.com/en/forum/?action=viewtopic&t=3040.0#postid-31631)

* Some of the photos labeled "Second Edition" on BGG.


The tile on the left matches:

* The print-and play of the original punchboard (https://www.devil-pig-games.com/en/dlm_download/les-commandos-de-lord-lovat-version-1/)

* The store photos for "LORD LOVAT’S COMMANDOS V2" (https://www.devil-pig-games.com/en/product/lord-lovats-commandos-v2/)

* Some of the photos labeled "Second Edition" on BGG.


I can't tell if there were actually printings with each pattern, or whether one pattern was planned and then it was changed before copies were printed.


Commonwealth 2.0 deck - extra card options Posted on [28/07/2021] à 07:05

There might be something in the Preview discussion… I have not had a chance to look.

https://www.devil-pig-games.com/en/forum/?action=viewtopic&t=3040.0


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Commonwealth 2.0 deck - extra card options Posted on [28/07/2021] à 08:24

Thank you guys, I have browsed a bit the links you provided to try to make sense of this.


The only place where I found colors compatible with the 2.0 deck Commando cards option is the V.2 Lord Lovat's Commando preview (https://www.devil-pig-games.com/en/new-lord-lovat-preview/).


However, it seems to me that that preview was superseded as it got into printing with what is actually available in the shop as the V.2 Commando (see here: https://www.devil-pig-games.com/en/product/lord-lovats-commandos-v2/).


The in-shop V.2 Commando colors are different from the preview, and retro-compatible with the old V.1 Commando, which use the same colors (visible here: https://www.devil-pig-games.com/en/les-commandos-de-lord-lovat-version-1/).


All in all it appears that both the V.1 and the V.2 Commando had the same colors, and the only different version is present in a preview. I only own the V.2 Commando though, so those are the only ones I could check physically. I also have the Fusilier Marins from Gazette #7 (https://www.devil-pig-games.com/en/product/devil-pig-news-7/) and these have the same colors of Commandos V.1 and V.2 as it is visible in the link as well (so do not work with the option from the 2.0 deck either).


Commonwealth 2.0 deck - extra card options Posted on [28/07/2021] à 11:51

Lovat already has his own training token, so if you want to use the cards with Lovat, you take HIS token to purchase the cards.


I am not sure what the exact exactly is the use for that new training trait, but it is obviously not for Lord Lovat.


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Commonwealth 2.0 deck - extra card options Posted on [28/07/2021] à 12:39

Yes, as I said, easy fix: I'll just use the old token to add the extra cards. I am just puzzled by the new token. I assumed it was meant to provide the option to include the extra cards to those playing Commandos but not owning Lovat, but the colors and stripes do not match, so it begs the question if that is meant for something not published already or if it is just a mistake.


On a different but related note, a similar issue is about the token to include the extra cards for the Paras.



The thin strip in the middle of the colored band in the new token is very bright (doesn't show well in the photo, sorry about that) and thus does not match with the standard red-brown-red pattern of Paras. Again, not sure if that is just a case of a bad palette/misprint (and thus the token is supposed to work with Paras) or not. Here at least the pattern matches, it is just a partial mismatch of colors.


I just have the Paras from Gazette#5 and not Pegasus Bridge, so that is as far as I could check directly, but it seems to me the same issue applies to those of Pegasus Bridge.


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