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Concealed + change of state
Concealed + change of state Posted on [25/07/2022] à 19:39

Another doubt: what happens when the "concealed" option is used on a unit which has a change of state ability (such as alert, tripod, medic)?


I assume the unit gets concealed in its current state.

But can then the state be changed without losing the concealment?


Concealed + change of state Posted on [27/07/2022] à 23:05

It is my understanding that any concealed unit has only the special abilities that are visible, which is to say none.


Concealed says it works "like the Ambush special ability", so while Ambushed, a unit has only the abilities displayed on its Ambush side (that is why Snipers have their Sniper ability on the Ambush side). Only when the unit is revealed can you use any of the Special Abilities on the unit.


So set up the unit however you want it to be setup when revealed and drop the Ambush counter on it.


I will check for clarification, just to be sure.

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Concealed + change of state Posted on [29/07/2022] à 00:41

Thanks Nostradunwich!


I'm aware the skills will not transfer to the concealed state.


I am asking because, depending on what state the unit is before getting concealed, movement may differ and its attack stats and abilities may be different as well once it gets out of concealment.


To put it in one easy example, a MG-42 is very different from one side to the other.


Basically I would like to know if it is fine to conceal any side. Once a unit is concealed, I assume it can't change state until it gets out of concealment first.
Concealed + change of state Posted on [24/01/2023] à 17:39

You choose the side and the orientation of the Concealed Unit (concealed thanks to the Conceal Option) when revealing it.
Concealed + change of state Posted on [27/01/2023] à 04:43

Quote from corporationman on [29/07/2022] à 00:41

Thanks Nostradunwich!


I'm aware the skills will not transfer to the concealed state.


I am asking because, depending on what state the unit is before getting concealed, movement may differ and its attack stats and abilities may be different as well once it gets out of concealment.


To put it in one easy example, a MG-42 is very different from one side to the other.


Basically I would like to know if it is fine to conceal any side. Once a unit is concealed, I assume it can't change state until it gets out of concealment first.


In my opinion, a concealed medic should be free to operate normally and retaining his skills… Otherwise could be counter intuitive or unworthy to be used…


Concealed + change of state Posted on [30/01/2023] à 07:47

Quote from corporationman on [29/07/2022] à 00:41

Basically I would like to know if it is fine to conceal any side.


Yes it is, if the conditions of a concealment are met…


Quote from corporationman on [29/07/2022] à 00:41Once a unit is concealed, I assume it can't change state until it gets out of concealment first.


When a unit is concealed, there is no defined state. The units keep its habilities and when it uses an action, it has to be revealed, on the side the player wants (and the one who allows to use a special hability if the unit has one).

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Concealed + change of state Posted on [02/02/2023] à 12:45

Quote from guitho1974 on [30/01/2023] à 07:47


Quote from corporationman on [29/07/2022] à 00:41

Basically I would like to know if it is fine to conceal any side.


Yes it is, if the conditions of a concealment are met…


Quote from corporationman on [29/07/2022] à 00:41Once a unit is concealed, I assume it can't change state until it gets out of concealment first.


When a unit is concealed, there is no defined state. The units keep its habilities and when it uses an action, it has to be revealed, on the side the player wants (and the one who allows to use a special hability if the unit has one).



Ability…

Just keep in mind this:

A) the concealed unit/team is a sniper one? Yes/No

B) if the answer was yes and you shoot using the sniper rifles charts… They do not reveal themselves.

C) if the answer was NO; then you MUST reveal the firing unit.

D) if the unit firing was not a sniper, or was using other types of attack (expecially things that make A LOT of noise such as plasma cannons or lasers or heavy bolters) or was using alternative types of attack; then it is compulsory to reveal such firing unit, cause they give away their position… Typical example: AT squads firing towards a tank with a bazooka or rocket pod / launcher…
Concealed + change of state Posted on [02/02/2023] à 21:26

Quote from Ivan Boscaro on [02/02/2023] à 12:45

Just keep in mind this:

A) the concealed unit/team is a sniper one? Yes/No

B) if the answer was yes and you shoot using the sniper rifles charts… They do not reveal themselves.

C) if the answer was NO; then you MUST reveal the firing unit.


Very good point. However, the Sniper Special Ability only allows the sniper to remain concealed IF they have the Sniper ability icon on their Concealed side. If the sniper only has the icon on their unconcealed side, they must also flip if they use the ability.


Quote from Ivan Boscaro on [02/02/2023] à 12:45

D) if the unit firing was not a sniper, or was using other types of attack (expecially things that make A LOT of noise such as plasma cannons or lasers or heavy bolters) or was using alternative types of attack; then it is compulsory to reveal such firing unit, cause they give away their position… Typical example: AT squads firing towards a tank with a bazooka or rocket pod / launcher…


Correct, except for the fact that there are no plasma cannons, lasers, or heavy bolters available in World War 2 🙂 However, if you insert the WW2 equivalents (flame throwers, machine guns, cannons, etc.) the sentence works perfectly.

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