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Civilian Stack and moving the unit beneath
Civilian Stack and moving the unit beneath posté le [23/10/2018] à 16:36

Hi!


Another question that popped up. When you have a civilian (or a stack of civilians) on an enemy unit.


Do they move with the enemy unit? Or do they stay in their original spot?


Civilian Stack and moving the unit beneath posté le [23/10/2018] à 16:54

There's no rule that states that they move with the enemy unit, they just stay in the spot… and annoy the hell out of the enemy. :mrgreen:


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Civilian Stack and moving the unit beneath posté le [23/10/2018] à 17:24

Whether stacked units move along or not, is described in the

"Civilians under Fire" scenarios rather than the rules.

Then again, players have the liberty to have stacked units behave differently in their own or other scenarios depending on the situation.


In "Civilians under Fire", captive civilians are moved in a stack along with the enemy unit that captured or escorts them. They can be passed on to another unit if that happens to be adjacent, once per turn. The escorting unit is however quite annoyed and burdened with the captives and suffers from the stacking.

Rulewise check the "Stacking " special ability.


Stacking

These units may share a square occupied by an

Infantry unit, even an enemy unit.

There is no limit to the number of units you can stack

in the same square.

Each unit that has this special ability inflicts a cumulative -1

penalty to every die roll of every unit in that square.

Firing actions (with or without explosion templates) affect all

the units in the square. Roll against each unit.

If one of the units sharing the square is targeted by an Assault,

the others in the square take no Damage.

If the attacker wins, the other units stay in the square and stack

with the victorious unit in the square vacated by the defender.


Civilian Stack and moving the unit beneath posté le [23/10/2018] à 17:45

Thank you for the quick answers! Clears it up 😀


Civilian Stack and moving the unit beneath posté le [24/10/2018] à 06:59

Quote from Moomer on [23/10/2018] à 17:24

Whether stacked units move along or not, is described in the

"Civilians under Fire" scenarios rather than the rules.

Then again, players have the liberty to have stacked units behave differently in their own or other scenarios depending on the situation.


Yes. Since the rules you mentioned are only scenario-specific rules, they would not apply by default outside of that scenario. But you can certainly include the same sort of rules in your own scenarios 😉


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Civilian Stack and moving the unit beneath posté le [24/10/2018] à 08:17

Cool ^_^ will think about a civilian scenario


Civilian Stack and moving the unit beneath posté le [27/06/2019] à 08:47

Any of you guys know anything about ZoC of Civilians?


Do they have a ZoC. I’m confused with how stacking works with ZoC.


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Civilian Stack and moving the unit beneath posté le [27/06/2019] à 08:56

Quote from bartdevuyst on [27/06/2019] à 08:47

Any of you guys know anything about ZoC of Civilians?


Do they have a ZoC. I’m confused with how stacking works with ZoC.


I suppose that also civilians do have a zone of control… But the soldiers are more powerful and stronger than them so they use intimidation and / or violent means in order to be "allowed to bypass" the ZoC, if the civilians ' tile do not "collaborate"…

At least… I interpret like this the ZoC for civilians…


Civilian Stack and moving the unit beneath posté le [27/06/2019] à 09:51

Quote from bartdevuyst on [27/06/2019] à 08:47

Any of you guys know anything about ZoC of Civilians?


Do they have a ZoC. I’m confused with how stacking works with ZoC.


Hmm good question!


Easiest would be to rule they do? If we imagine this in real-life, you want to move around a group of civilians to make sure they won't hinder you and pull some funny business. Giving you a -1 😉 Moving around (out of the ZOC) makes sure they don't step in your squad by surprise and hinder you.


Civilian Stack and moving the unit beneath posté le [27/06/2019] à 20:30

If the civilians are unarmed, I would say they do not exert a ZoC. Even an armed unit that is suppressed does not have a ZoC, and they can still (if lucky) project lethal force.


Edit to add: I see GDuprez in the Francophone forums agrees with me 😉


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Civilian Stack and moving the unit beneath posté le [28/06/2019] à 08:03

Nice! Forgot about the surpression ZOC rules! Good one.


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